designflaw
09-14 04:46 PM
I am aware that I was lucky (BTW, March 07 labor was my second labor. First one rotted in the BEC. And I have been here since '99). However, that doesn't change the fact that there is likely to be a 10+ year wait time for EB3 ROW. Thats my gut-feeling.
I also think that these 10+ year wait times are meaningless. In a few years, there will be some sort of CIR, and a points-based system will be instituted. At that point, there will be no distinction between those who have filed their 485s, and those who haven't.
All that we July07 EB-3 filers (India or ROW), and even EB-2 I/C, have is an EAD card until the CIR happens. If it happens next year, we are all in the same boat. If it happens in 2015, then the July 07 filers have EAD cards until then.
The thing what I don't understand is, after July 2007, the priority dates for EB3-ROW were available. As a matter of fact, look at the this document (http://www.techjargons.com/USCIS_priority_dates.pdf), the priority dates went all the way up to March 2006. So, if there were no more visa's then right after July 2007, how can USCIS continue to make priority dates available?
I also think that these 10+ year wait times are meaningless. In a few years, there will be some sort of CIR, and a points-based system will be instituted. At that point, there will be no distinction between those who have filed their 485s, and those who haven't.
All that we July07 EB-3 filers (India or ROW), and even EB-2 I/C, have is an EAD card until the CIR happens. If it happens next year, we are all in the same boat. If it happens in 2015, then the July 07 filers have EAD cards until then.
The thing what I don't understand is, after July 2007, the priority dates for EB3-ROW were available. As a matter of fact, look at the this document (http://www.techjargons.com/USCIS_priority_dates.pdf), the priority dates went all the way up to March 2006. So, if there were no more visa's then right after July 2007, how can USCIS continue to make priority dates available?
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TheOmbudsman
06-26 03:24 PM
Well, even the traffic/speeing violation may become a crime. It just depends on how many times you keep doing it !
I am sorry stucklabour but a traffic/speeding violation is a misdemeanour and not breaking the law. Being in this country illegally is actually breaking the law. Now i am not going to get suckered into a whole legals v/s illegals debate, but at some level i do feel that undocumented workers HAVE broken the law. Besides the argument that "everyone does it" really doesnt cut it. 10 wrongs do not make 1 right. If you look at the punishment for the 2 things a speeding violation leads to a simple fine, a violation of Visa leads to deportation.
Now i personally dont care, whether the US Govt asks the undocumented to stay or leave. What i DO care about is, how we, the legals are treated. So whether the illegals are mexican, indian, chinese, cambodian or actual aliens from Mars, the policy should be: "If you come the right way, you will make it in, if you come the wrong way, you will either NOT make it in at all, OR will have to wait much longer than the people who came in the right way". So poeple pls stop the "racist" remarks against Just the Mexican community and culture. On the other hand the moderators too have to understand that everyone here does have a right to express SOME opinions regarding the undocumented/illegal immigrants. When you see urself and people doing things the right way waiting for years, as opposed to people doing things the wrong way being literally gifted Green cards, it does raise anger and frustration levels.
I am sorry stucklabour but a traffic/speeding violation is a misdemeanour and not breaking the law. Being in this country illegally is actually breaking the law. Now i am not going to get suckered into a whole legals v/s illegals debate, but at some level i do feel that undocumented workers HAVE broken the law. Besides the argument that "everyone does it" really doesnt cut it. 10 wrongs do not make 1 right. If you look at the punishment for the 2 things a speeding violation leads to a simple fine, a violation of Visa leads to deportation.
Now i personally dont care, whether the US Govt asks the undocumented to stay or leave. What i DO care about is, how we, the legals are treated. So whether the illegals are mexican, indian, chinese, cambodian or actual aliens from Mars, the policy should be: "If you come the right way, you will make it in, if you come the wrong way, you will either NOT make it in at all, OR will have to wait much longer than the people who came in the right way". So poeple pls stop the "racist" remarks against Just the Mexican community and culture. On the other hand the moderators too have to understand that everyone here does have a right to express SOME opinions regarding the undocumented/illegal immigrants. When you see urself and people doing things the right way waiting for years, as opposed to people doing things the wrong way being literally gifted Green cards, it does raise anger and frustration levels.
delax
07-27 10:43 AM
LEGAL AND STUCK IN - 7 YRS. ILLEGAL AND SNUCK IN - 7 MINS. CHOOSE!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
Its unfortunate that you ask us to UNITE and use 'EB2 elitist protectionism' in the same breath. I am not even going down the road of EB3 'smarter' than EB2 because a reverse argument is equally valid if not more. The law as stated above is what it is - there is a clear categorizaton established by law. If there is a level of frustration with it then a campaign to change it makes sense. However any proposed changes that arbitrarily assigns visa numbers just because 'my HR filed it the way it got filed' then you need to check with your HR and port over to EB2 - if you think your private US degree qualifies you for it. The position determines EB2 or EB3 and I'll leave it at that.
I have no problems in people expressing their opinion in an open forum and lobbying for change. The devil is in the detail. If the change means taking the EB2 excess visas to give to EB3 purely based on length of wait then I have every right to present another point of view - elitist protectionism or not.
I have only seen implications to this effect but nobody has come forward and said it plainly - yes we are EB3 and we want the EB2 excess visas because we have waited seven years. Everybody seems to imply it but nobody wants to call it as plainly as I stated it above. I am only presenting a counter to that.
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
Its unfortunate that you ask us to UNITE and use 'EB2 elitist protectionism' in the same breath. I am not even going down the road of EB3 'smarter' than EB2 because a reverse argument is equally valid if not more. The law as stated above is what it is - there is a clear categorizaton established by law. If there is a level of frustration with it then a campaign to change it makes sense. However any proposed changes that arbitrarily assigns visa numbers just because 'my HR filed it the way it got filed' then you need to check with your HR and port over to EB2 - if you think your private US degree qualifies you for it. The position determines EB2 or EB3 and I'll leave it at that.
I have no problems in people expressing their opinion in an open forum and lobbying for change. The devil is in the detail. If the change means taking the EB2 excess visas to give to EB3 purely based on length of wait then I have every right to present another point of view - elitist protectionism or not.
I have only seen implications to this effect but nobody has come forward and said it plainly - yes we are EB3 and we want the EB2 excess visas because we have waited seven years. Everybody seems to imply it but nobody wants to call it as plainly as I stated it above. I am only presenting a counter to that.
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mashu
08-15 03:47 PM
I am on the same boat as well.
I think that LUD recent changes with no receipts/no checks cahsed might reflect transfer to TSC.
Suggestion: for people who filed I140 in TSC and I485 in NSC- to register to USCIS website and keep track of LUD (as a transfer indication):confused:
BTW, talked to my lawyer, he does not think so but he does not any other opinion also:mad:
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EB3
I140 approved by TSC on 6/15/2007
I4585 received by NSC on July 2, 11:34am
Last Update Date on I140 - 8/12/2007
No receipt, no check cashed
I think that LUD recent changes with no receipts/no checks cahsed might reflect transfer to TSC.
Suggestion: for people who filed I140 in TSC and I485 in NSC- to register to USCIS website and keep track of LUD (as a transfer indication):confused:
BTW, talked to my lawyer, he does not think so but he does not any other opinion also:mad:
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EB3
I140 approved by TSC on 6/15/2007
I4585 received by NSC on July 2, 11:34am
Last Update Date on I140 - 8/12/2007
No receipt, no check cashed
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eb3_nepa
07-06 09:44 AM
DEAD FISH DEAD FISH!! :p
chanduv23
07-09 09:12 PM
Desi393, FinalGC, Ramba:
You've mentioned a few times on this forum that on AC21, the job needs to be "permanent." That is misinformation, since the Yates memo you quote doesn't say that. Also, what do you mean by a "permanent" job? I haven't seen a job offer letter in the US saying that the job would be "permanent" (whatever that means). Also, what do you mean by "legitimate
" employment? Could you quote a USCIS resource?
Another misinformation I've seen on this forum is advising people to "file AC21." First, no USCIS resource mentions that. Second, you're are *not* required by USCIS to inform them of every job change if you're invoking AC21.
sankap - I think these folks are asking you to be cautious. AC21 RFEs request if the prospects of employment.
the "permanant" job means "the job is always there" as per projection.
even if your employer has consulting business - as long as you are employed with this employer under w2 "yours" is a "permanant job" at that time projected - things MAY change later.
The same works with self - employment. As long as your self employed as drawing w2 salary and doing the same duties - it is permanant employment.
So lets not get confused here. If you project that your current job is ONLY temporary in nature then that does not qualify as a permanant job.
Being self employed and doing consulting work means you r constantly doing projects under your own corp which is perm job.
Lets discuss this in detail - i will get back to this as my kid is not allowing me to type now
You've mentioned a few times on this forum that on AC21, the job needs to be "permanent." That is misinformation, since the Yates memo you quote doesn't say that. Also, what do you mean by a "permanent" job? I haven't seen a job offer letter in the US saying that the job would be "permanent" (whatever that means). Also, what do you mean by "legitimate
" employment? Could you quote a USCIS resource?
Another misinformation I've seen on this forum is advising people to "file AC21." First, no USCIS resource mentions that. Second, you're are *not* required by USCIS to inform them of every job change if you're invoking AC21.
sankap - I think these folks are asking you to be cautious. AC21 RFEs request if the prospects of employment.
the "permanant" job means "the job is always there" as per projection.
even if your employer has consulting business - as long as you are employed with this employer under w2 "yours" is a "permanant job" at that time projected - things MAY change later.
The same works with self - employment. As long as your self employed as drawing w2 salary and doing the same duties - it is permanant employment.
So lets not get confused here. If you project that your current job is ONLY temporary in nature then that does not qualify as a permanant job.
Being self employed and doing consulting work means you r constantly doing projects under your own corp which is perm job.
Lets discuss this in detail - i will get back to this as my kid is not allowing me to type now
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vsattri
08-27 12:59 PM
July 30th. No news yet.
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rdehar
04-30 01:00 PM
Are we going to see the bulletin move to 2002,2003,2004,2005 ? in the next year .. wow its backed up 7 yrs..
Any realistic numbers how many EB3 India pending cases are there with PDs in each of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ...
Anyone know any links, USCIS keeps on posting some data all the time.
Any realistic numbers how many EB3 India pending cases are there with PDs in each of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ...
Anyone know any links, USCIS keeps on posting some data all the time.
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starving_dog
06-26 12:02 PM
I find it slightly amusing that your perception is that my perception is distorted. I am not a member of the core team and my remarks are my personal opinion. If I am wrong, well, then I'm wrong. If I'm right, these posts will be buried so far in the thread that it won't matter at that time.
Check this out... http://www.visalaw.com/blog.html
Check this out... http://www.visalaw.com/blog.html
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jfredr
11-21 10:51 AM
Hi Mehul,
I have heard in the past that Wife gets consideration in case of family problems like divorce.
Definetly there should be a way check with Attorney.
I have heard in the past that Wife gets consideration in case of family problems like divorce.
Definetly there should be a way check with Attorney.
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uma77
09-07 04:57 PM
guys,
mine any my wife's application was posted on july 5th, reached nsc on 6th and got the receipts on 4th of sep.
All the best for everyone waiting for receipts and yours will be coming soon.
Uma
mine any my wife's application was posted on july 5th, reached nsc on 6th and got the receipts on 4th of sep.
All the best for everyone waiting for receipts and yours will be coming soon.
Uma
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BrazilianCitizen
06-12 12:14 PM
My attorney told me it should be 1.5 months after the receipt date. But with this unprecedented volume, who knows...
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TeddyKoochu
09-23 05:30 PM
Explain how this is the least controversial? Are anti, illegals, and other stake holders willing to do this?
Excluding dependents is like making the Cap 2.5 times, when I say least controversial I intend to that everybody in the legal immigrant community will support it. If the cap becomes 300K Per annum, Iam sure everybody by which I mean even if somebody has filed for his / her labor today will get approved within 2 years (Equivalent to 600K visa numbers). Of course this will require a change of law but nobody EB1, EB2, EB3, ROW, India / China would oppose this as everybody's process gets speeded up. There is no other way to clear the backlog in its entirety and ensure that it does not happen again like this solution of excluding dependents.
Excluding dependents is like making the Cap 2.5 times, when I say least controversial I intend to that everybody in the legal immigrant community will support it. If the cap becomes 300K Per annum, Iam sure everybody by which I mean even if somebody has filed for his / her labor today will get approved within 2 years (Equivalent to 600K visa numbers). Of course this will require a change of law but nobody EB1, EB2, EB3, ROW, India / China would oppose this as everybody's process gets speeded up. There is no other way to clear the backlog in its entirety and ensure that it does not happen again like this solution of excluding dependents.
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paragpujara
08-18 12:30 PM
ADIT - Alien Documentation, Identification & Telecommunications System (ADIT Photo's no longer used by the USCIS )
ADIT refers to biometrics. What the approval notice is stating is that you will get your GC within 60 days or when you complete any ADIT processing that still needs to occur.
Some people are getting their GC approved without an up to date ADIT file. So the application is approved and an ADIT request is made. Once you complete it, they send you the card.
The old I-551 stamp was also refered to as an ADIT stamp, but I don't think that's what they are refering to here.
Don't worry about it, it's the standard message.
IF ADIT PROCESSING IS REQUIRED THEN IT WILL BE MENTIONED IN THE WELCOME NOTICE. THIS IS A STANDARD MESSAGE. I ALSO GOT THE SAME MESSAGAE BUT MY WELCOME NOTICE DOESNOT HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT ADIT PROCESSING. SO TAKE IT EASY.
When did you receive email and when did you receive your card ?
ADIT refers to biometrics. What the approval notice is stating is that you will get your GC within 60 days or when you complete any ADIT processing that still needs to occur.
Some people are getting their GC approved without an up to date ADIT file. So the application is approved and an ADIT request is made. Once you complete it, they send you the card.
The old I-551 stamp was also refered to as an ADIT stamp, but I don't think that's what they are refering to here.
Don't worry about it, it's the standard message.
IF ADIT PROCESSING IS REQUIRED THEN IT WILL BE MENTIONED IN THE WELCOME NOTICE. THIS IS A STANDARD MESSAGE. I ALSO GOT THE SAME MESSAGAE BUT MY WELCOME NOTICE DOESNOT HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT ADIT PROCESSING. SO TAKE IT EASY.
When did you receive email and when did you receive your card ?
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techbuyer77
06-18 07:11 AM
who knows?
My friend sent her package on may 18th and she saw on uscis that they dated the receipt as june 1st... so that can give you an idea.
I sent mine on June 1st....nothing yet.
on june 6th the immigration.com breaking new claims there is a backlog of receipt for up to 45 days.
I am expecting to get mine at least by june 30th because with the flood of applications on july first....whoi knows
My friend sent her package on may 18th and she saw on uscis that they dated the receipt as june 1st... so that can give you an idea.
I sent mine on June 1st....nothing yet.
on june 6th the immigration.com breaking new claims there is a backlog of receipt for up to 45 days.
I am expecting to get mine at least by june 30th because with the flood of applications on july first....whoi knows
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pr02
07-11 12:25 PM
I liked the burning photocopies idea very much .This will surely work.
Is it legal? There could be a law written in the 1800s that bans something like this. Please confirm. Things like burning stuff have a tendency to go out of hand and create larger problems. IMHO, more peaceful means would be better.
Is it legal? There could be a law written in the 1800s that bans something like this. Please confirm. Things like burning stuff have a tendency to go out of hand and create larger problems. IMHO, more peaceful means would be better.
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Tito_ortiz
05-24 01:09 AM
I am sorry to tell you that if you are not a voter and you do not clarify that at the time you call or fax congressmen, your request is practically useless. Don't believe if others tell you otherwise.
I made phone calls to all (10 + 2) successfully left messages for 8 but the following 4 had issues,
Sen. Cornyn's and Sen. McConnell's office phone systems do not direct you to a voicemail system (I was calling after office hours so I couldnt speak to someone either), and,
I get a 'voicemail machine full' message from the Reid and Martinez offices.
Wonder if anyone else has faced the same problem.
Will try those 4 again tomorrow
V
I made phone calls to all (10 + 2) successfully left messages for 8 but the following 4 had issues,
Sen. Cornyn's and Sen. McConnell's office phone systems do not direct you to a voicemail system (I was calling after office hours so I couldnt speak to someone either), and,
I get a 'voicemail machine full' message from the Reid and Martinez offices.
Wonder if anyone else has faced the same problem.
Will try those 4 again tomorrow
V
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srmodi
08-14 08:49 AM
Looks like they started July 2nd filing as I got my I-485 -AP- EAD receipt.
Good Luck for waiters..
Good Luck for waiters..
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skd
07-10 05:36 PM
Any Rallies near Portland Area ?
royus77
07-11 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by conchshell
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about. :D.......
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about. :D.......
myvoice23
09-26 09:49 AM
Can you let us know if they respected your RN july 3rd?
Received date is JUly 3rd on receipts
Received date is JUly 3rd on receipts
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